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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:01 am 
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Do you ever feel completely alone?
Do you ever feel like your heart has cried out for help and everyone just seems to reject you?
Do you ever feel like those you thought were your friends and would be there no matter what has turned their backs on you?
Do you ever feel like you just don't belong anymore?
Do you wish there was a place you could just disappear and not be remembered by anyone?
Does it even matter anyway?
Just wondering......Cindy :cry:

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YES.

I have been feeling more alone and isolated since March than I have ever felt in my life. I feel at times that no one knows or understands me at all anymore. My friends and family seem to have no idea how I've changed or if they realize that I have changed, they don't understand it or choose to recognize it. There are times that I feel like I am in a void, and even that doesn't suit me. There have been so many times that I have wanted to desperately to be numb and just remain in a state of limbo, this endless and empty void of not knowing, not caring, not doing or being anything...no one would see me or hear me or know me or anything.

I think that it does matter.These feelings come from somewhere, and while I certainly do not have the answers, I can share what I think so far.I think that these feelings/thoughts are probably "normal" considering the loss we've been dealing with and trying to figure out. I think that sometimes these come up when I have been thinking too much or trying to hard to analyze the why's and how's of Laura's death and the aftermath and what to do next. I think that these feelings/thoughts are signals that we need to step back and relax some (hard as that is to do) before moving forward with life. Perhaps they are the very base stepping stones to getting to a new stage of "normal". Nothing will ever be as it was before the death of Laura, but I can be a better person for it and learn something from it. I can make a positive change somewhere somehow...

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Oh Cindy, my heart is breaking for you and your precious family. :cry:

Absolutely, I feel so alone at times. There's times, especially when I'm alone and driving, when I just have to pull my vehicle off to the side of the road and just cry and cry. I sit there and think about the people passing by me....have they ever experienced this much pain and emptiness? Do they know what it's like to bury a child? Sometimes I feel as though I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, but no one even so much as turns their head to hear me. I feel as though no one understands what I have been through and what I continue to go through. I feel that way, that is, until I come here to the forum. Here I know that everyone understands what I am going through and continue to go through.

I wish I had answers, I really, really do. I think that things would be so much easier if we all had the answers we search daily for.

I pray that God surrounds you in peace and comfort. I'm always here if you need anything.

I love you my dear friend.

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Do you ever feel completely alone?
Yes. But I think I am weird...because I often want to just be left alone! I use to not always be this way. The only people I tend to want around me is my husband, children, mom, step-father, sister, and my angel families...but even then, I have moments of wanting to be completely alone. I guess it is because I feel as though people don't understand and I am not able to "fit in" anymore in my real life. It is easier for me to hide from everything and everyone.

Do you ever feel like your heart has cried out for help and everyone just seems to reject you?
This is a tough one because I don't let my heart cry out to other people that much anymore. I have learned that it is easier and safer to keep things inside. Instead of crying out for help, I have withdrawn from so many people. Although I will say, last night I got so scarred. Craig was working late and I heard my garage door being messed with at 1:00 am. I thought Craig was finally home from work. After a bit I went and checked and he wasn't there. I called him and he was just leaving work an hour away. I felt panic set in...I saw my children laying in bed and me not being able to protect them if anybody were to break into my home. I emailed Jane and asked her to call me if she was still up and she did! She stayed on the phone with me until Craig came home. The friends I reach out to are mostly on here and I have never felt rejected here.

Do you ever feel like those you thought were your friends and would be there no matter what has turned their backs on you?
YES! YES! YES! My best friend, since we were 14 (I am 31 now) has not talked to me since 1 1/2-2 months after Garion's funeral. I have tried calling her and her number has been changed/disconnected. I have no idea why but all I can assume is that she didn't know how to handle the pain I was in and it was easier for her to just walk away.

Do you ever feel like you just don't belong anymore?
YES!!!!! The big thing going on in our lives right now is soccer. Garion loved/loves his sports!!!! When I go out to eh fields I feel like such an alien now. I see all of Garion's friends playing on the BIG field and the parents having a good time. I am now back on the little filed only and I want so badly to be a part of them again. I MISS THEM SO MUCH! They don't make me feel this way, they would welcome me with open arms, but I would not be able handle sitting over there with them...but I want to, WITH MY SON!

Do you wish there was a place you could just disappear and not be remembered by anyone?
I dream about running away with my husband and children many times. I don't know how long I could handle staying gone though. I know I enjoy leaving on trips, being in a place where we can create our own happy memories and not be constantly reminded of our tragedy.

Does it even matter anyways?
I have faith in knowing that all of this will matter one day. I may not understand how this will play a part in my eternal life in heaven, but I have to have hope that there is a reason for all of this and it does matter in the long scheme of things.

Thank you Cindy for asking these questions. It was good to sit and think about each one of them and share them with all of you. I love you!

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Dear Cindy,

Dear God, yes, to all of the above....and then some.

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Susan

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Before I answer your questions and repeat what everyone else has said, I really must tell you my friend what you've told me over and over:

You're never alone, God is with you; He's in your heart and you are in his heart. But having said that, I know how you feel. I have to tell you my precious friend that you are thought of so very many times every single day and when I pray, all my forum friends are included.......... Beyond that, we care about you and are here for you when you need us, or just want to be heard.

I love you Cindy, I understand your pain and I share it with you as do all our mothers on the forum. We care, very deeply, about you, your peace of mind and the sorrow that you live with every single day.

Do you ever feel completely alone?

Yes, sometimes I feel frightened by that feeling. I was raised in a huge family. All my growing up years I had six big brothers who adored me and two sisters who saw me as almost one of their own children. I had my parents, many, many aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews.......... and friends of my family who had known me all of my life. I was born when my parents were in their 40's, an accident but none the less loved and spoiled rotten.

When I married the first time I totally immersed myself in my in-law family. I loved them all and that love and acceptance was returned to me. My father-in-law was one of my very dearest friends. I adored him. I loved my first husband so much, so passionately that I built my world around him. My circle of family was HUGE.

Now, they're all gone, my parents, my brothers & their wives, my sisters & their husbands, my first husband, who I was divorced from but always did feel a strong affection for, every aunt, uncle, cousins, and many, many nieces & nephews. My in-laws, both from my first marriage & my second...........all gone. I remember back to that huge circle and it fills me with pain . I live in a small community, and cannot go anywhere without passing by someone's home that I was related to and now strangers live there. Sometimes, at a certain time of year, late spring usually,I will have actual attacks of loneliness when I drive by my in-laws and remember Christmasses and the boys' fishing trips out on the ocean, and playing cards with my mother-in-law for hours and hours........

Yes Cindy, I feel so alone. I don't have very many people left that even remember my mom and dad. Sadness can totally overwhelm me. I was born in a weird time period, ahead of the baby boomers so my life time and my connections back to the past put me astraddle of a time warp. My mother actually traveled in a covered wagon from Colorado Springs to Tennessee when she was a little girl. My parents had uncles, grandparents, cousins.......family, many family, who fought in the Civil War, the First World War and then my brothers and brothers-in-law fought in World War II. My dad was born in 1896 and my mother in 1903. When they were growing up, the Civil War was almost a recent event.... and their family talked about it so much, about grandparents and uncles who had fought in it.So, when I think back to what they saw, lived through and told me about.......... I feel like my life has been a huge part of history. When I was a little girl, in Tennessee, my parents would talk about this relative or that one who was killed at Shilo or at Antietam .... The battle of Antietam was partially fought on my great grandfathers farm......... my dad was named for this grandfather.

All gone...........every one.............. just a memory, and I'm probably the only person alive who even remembers them, or the stories told about them, except one nephew who's two months older than me and he still lives in Tennessee.......... My nieces remember their parents but some don't have a lot of memories of my life..... or family members. Even the ones who are close to my own age, haven't a clue about family history. I was in Tennessee a few years ago and I visited "Old Piney" the cemetery where so many of my family are buried. My dads brothers, my own brothers who died as infants, my grandparents on both sides, and many distant relatives I'd never even heard of.......... it was so emotional to me.

Yes, sometimes I feel so very alone in such a strange and lonely way. The entire way of life that my family knew has passed by and no-one is left to talk about it anymore. I sometimes feel as if I've outlived my purpose here.


Do you ever feel like your heart has cried out for help and everyone just seems to reject you?
Yes, I feel sometimes that my friends could tell just by looking at me that I'm filled with despair and need to talk, but I don't blame them, they have tried to reach out to me and I've turned them down so many times that they've probably given up.

Do you ever feel like those you thought were your friends and would be there no matter what has turned their backs on you?
Yes, especially one friend that I've been so close to since we were all in high school. When I sent her a notice that Scott had passed, she never even responded. That hurt, we were best friends when we first started dating and had our babies at the same time. After my divorce and remarried, this couple visited us here and spent nights with us and we always talked on the phone & emailed back and forth and wrote letters..... not a word from her. That hurt.

Do you ever feel like you just don't belong anymore?

Yes, especially in the world of today. It's changed so much and I'm actually afraid to go out at night alone now. I'm bewildered by so much that's changed in our country and in my own life. My children have their children and their own lives and now my daughter has become the me I was about 20 years ago. She's so busy with work and her own family....
I don't feel as if I fit in anywhere........ it's a lonely feeling. Even with my group of friends from work, I don't work there anymore and don't know what's going on. They've hired so many new people and I don't even know them.

I feel sometimes like a stranger in my own life.

Do you wish there was a place you could just disappear and not be remembered by anyone?
Yes, and I felt that way so strongly at first that I even contemplated simply disappearing, maybe moving back to one of the places I've lived before where my children were all alive & happy. I almost felt I could find my old life, if I just went back there. But my husband and my grandchildren depend on me so very much.. and what about my animals. I've come to the conclusion that this is where I belong. I've read so much of my mother's poetry and I know she felt the same way. She'd lost so many people in her life and she grieved and worried so much. But she belonged where she was and that's where she stayed.

Does it even matter anyway?
Truly, in the big picture, in the total scheme of life and events........no.... it does not matter. To us, it is our world and it matters so very much............ but in a few years it won't matter much to anyone else.

When we go back east or south, I love to visit the very old cemeteries. Sometimes you'll find a mother and several very young children whose graves are grouped together. I always think of the unbearable sorrow represented there. But now,,,,,,,,,, it no longer matters to anyone alive today.

I think of Mary Todd Lincoln, who buried all of her children except one, and had her husband murdered in front of her eyes........... and her son Robert had to have her committed to an insane institution........... of course she went crazy.... that was a natural reaction to the insanity of her life. But does it matter to the world today? How often do we really remember her unbearable sorrow, her agony at losing each of her children?

It's relevant.................to us it matters a great deal, but in as much as 25-50 years, it won't matter to the rest of the world at all. That, in a bizarre way is comforting to me. Life goes on, even when we don't want it to.

Life truly isn't for sissies, to survive it you have to have faith and hold fast to it, in the end, God is really all we truly have.

Except for today, we have each other.

Love to each of you, and all of you,
jane

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yes ,i feel like when im talking to friends ,relatives they look at me with a blank stare,they dont have a clue ,the debth of the pain of losing a child.i feel like just laying by chris,s resting spot and never getting up.i feel like a ailen in this world now

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Cindy,
Do I ever feel completly alone? Yes.Sometimes I just like it that way its better than hearing people ask me over and over "Are you OK" Of course I,m not.

Do I ever feel like my heart has cried out for help and everyone seem to reject me? No
I don't show my emotions to any one I try to keep everything in,unless its my husband or my family here.

Do you ever feel like those you thought were your friends and would be there no matter what has turned thier back on you?
Yes.They mostly avoid me.Maybe they don't know how to deal with my crying and talking about Michael. But this will never change.

Do you ever feel like you just don't belong? Yes everytime I see Michaels' friends or their parents at school or ball games.Actually I don't feel I belong any where anymore except
here.

Do you wish you could just disappear and not be remembered? All I can say to that is sometimes.But I actually already feel like I've been forgotten so I guess I can stay right here and feel that way.

Does it even matter anyway? Right now it doesn't really matter to me.But I'd like to think someday IT will

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I feel like I've missed out on so much of this forum! We were out of town for our 1st (married) anniversary this weekend. It didn't go as I hoped it would. I've been in one of my "funks" again these last few days. I go so far up and fall so far down. And not even this weekend could change it... I haven't even had the energy to respond to the posts! I'm sorry. :(

I do want to throw in real quick I got my gift from my secret pal! I will wait to share on Nov. 1st what it is but I have to say it's BEAUTIFUL and brought tears to my eyes! There is a loving note attached that I keep on my nightstand by my bed and read it at least 5 times before going to sleep. Thank you secret pal!! :')

Do you ever feel completely alone?
Yes. Everyday, all day. When I log onto this forum I feel like I know someone, and someone knows me. I feel like a wallflower. I can watch everything happen but I don't feel like I'm in the same world.

Do you ever feel like your heart has cried out for help and everyone just seems to reject you?
I feel like my heart has cried out as well as my mouth. I must have lost my voice box because no matter how loud I scream for help nobody can hear me! Those who do think I'm joking.

Do you ever feel like those you thought were your friends and would be there no matter what has turned their backs on you?
I have a few very close friends. Two of them now live in South Korea, one moved to southern California a week before Laura's 2nd memorial, and the last took off and got married without saying a word to me and lives far away. The first three are a phone call away but it's not the same. I miss their hugs and living down the street from them.

All my old co-workers were always there for me. They helped me plan my wedding, helped me pick out a name for my puppy, and everything in between. Suddenly I'm terminated and even though I give them my contact info... not a word since. Guess I'm not good enough now.

Do you ever feel like you just don't belong anymore?
I feel like the odd ball. Everyone is going through X, Y or Z time in their life, while I'm sort of floating around not knowing where I'm supposed to be. I'm not situated in any piece of my life right now. I don't know where I'm going or what I'm doing.

Do you wish there was a place you could just disappear and not be remembered by anyone?
I'm already forgotten about.

Does it even matter anyway?
Nothing I can do about it. So no, I guess it doesn't.

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Drea!!! I LOVE YOU!! You are my daughter and I feel closer to you than I ever have. I will always be here for you. No matter what. Still I completely understand how you are feeling.

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